| (Presenter) It's 1947 in the capital city of Wales, Cardiff, which was, and still is, the largest Negro district in the United Kingdom with Negro residents now numbered at about 8000. | |
| (News Reader) Here in Cardiff crowds gathered outside the Senedd chanting 'we can't breathe' ─ the three words which have sparked protests across the globe. | |
| (0, 1) 74 | That upset my system so much. |
| (Gwawr) Me too. | |
| (Gwawr) Me too. | |
| (0, 1) 76 | Upset the whole world I think. |
| (0, 1) 77 | Middle-class white people are far more radical black than us black people. |
| (Presenter) Ac ar ol y feirniadaeth arbennig yna, a mi oedd hi'n feirniadaeth arbennig... | |
| (Cardiffian Woman) Well, the only wreck I see in our neighbourhood are white men. | |
| (0, 3) 161 | So I arrived in Wales in 1978. |
| (Gwawr) And your parents were already here? | |
| (Gwawr) So what did your grandparents do? | |
| (0, 3) 175 | My grandfather was farming most of the time. |
| (0, 3) 176 | I was actually brought up by women completely, more or less. |
| (Gwawr) Same | |
| (Gwawr) Same | |
| (0, 3) 179 | It's a shame you never got to meet her. |
| (0, 3) 180 | My grandmother is still, apart from now you are here, the greatest human being that ever lived. |
| (0, 3) 182 | She lived with me for all my life, her morals are my morals, but my problem is I ignored them for many years. |
| (Gwawr) And what would those be? | |
| (Gwawr) And what would those be? | |
| (0, 3) 184 | Just behave yourself, be kind, be truthful. |
| (0, 3) 186 | I know. |
| (0, 3) 187 | I did send the odd message. |
| (0, 3) 188 | I'm sorry, I probably said some things… some things that probably upset you. |
| (0, 3) 189 | I was trying to explain my state of mind when you came around, when you were born and stuff. |
| (Gwawr) Yeah you did upset me. | |
| (Gwawr) Your grandmother, what did she do? | |
| (0, 3) 196 | She was a shopkeeper. |
| (0, 3) 197 | She had a village shop and, you know, raised goats, chickens. |
| (0, 3) 198 | We were from the countryside so we all multi-tasked. |
| (0, 3) 199 | We used to grow citrus fruits; oranges, tangerines, mangos ─ my grandfather used to grow Tangelo. |
| (Gwawr) Grow what? | |
| (Gwawr) Grow what? | |
| (0, 3) 201 | They're like a cross between tangerines, oranges and something else. |
| (Gwawr) Oh, ok. | |
| (Gwawr) Oh, ok. | |
| (0, 3) 203 | He used to splice some citrus fruit together and make hybrid ones. |
| (Gwawr) Waw. | |
| (Gwawr) Waw. | |
| (0, 3) 206 | So, do you work, do you have a job? |
| (Gwawr) I'm going to University in September, hopefully. | |
| (Gwawr) I'm going to University in September, hopefully. | |
| (0, 3) 208 | What will you study? |
| (Gwawr) Politics. | |
| (Gwawr) Politics. | |
| (0, 3) 210 | Ah, so you're going to be the next British Prime Minister. |
| (Gwawr) Welsh Prime Minister. | |
| (Gwawr) Welsh Prime Minister. | |
| (0, 3) 212 | Ah yes, Welsh, of course. |
| (Presenter) Studies have shown that the morality of breeding racially mixed offspring is to be questioned. | |
| (Gwawr) Sure. | |
| (0, 5) 272 | You look just like her, you know. |
| (Gwawr) Who? | |
| (Gwawr) Who? | |
| (0, 5) 274 | Your great-grandmother, |
| (Gwawr) Do I? | |
| (Gwawr) Do I? | |
| (0, 5) 276 | A few generations ago we were slaves and my great-grandfather, he was like a landowner and I think he was almost, more or less, pure white, he was. |
| (Gwawr) I mean, I assumed we were slaves at some point but I never actually, you know, heard it out loud. | |
| (Gwawr) I mean, I assumed we were slaves at some point but I never actually, you know, heard it out loud. | |
| (0, 5) 278 | Caribbean and black slavery doesn't worry me as much as some people take it to heart. |
| (0, 5) 279 | I know that it was a great evil and it needs to be compensated for or what not, but I'm pragmatic to the point where you know … everyone be a bastard in that age, everybody took slaves, even Africans ─ we just got the sharp end of the stick. |
| (Gwawr) What!? | |
| (Presenter) The negroes will not accept them as Blacks and the Whites just assume they are coloured. | |
| (0, 7) 400 | I'm so glad that we've managed to meet. |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, I was worrying that they would change the restrictions or something. | |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, I was worrying that they would change the restrictions or something. | |
| (0, 7) 402 | I mean you can still get away with doing pretty much anything ─ it's not like they're really policing it. |
| (Gwawr) Yeah … I suppose … you know, morally it's/ | |
| (Gwawr) Yeah … I suppose … you know, morally it's/ | |
| (0, 7) 404 | /When we had curfew in Jamaica, I was held at gunpoint because of the killings. |
| (Gwawr) Sorry what, I don't know what you mean, what killings? | |
| (Gwawr) Sorry what, I don't know what you mean, what killings? | |
| (0, 7) 406 | The killings in Kingston, political violence. |
| (Gwawr) I really don't know what you're talking about. | |
| (Gwawr) I really don't know what you're talking about. | |
| (0, 7) 408 | That's ok, I never taught you. |
| (Gwawr) No, you didn't. | |
| (Gwawr) No, you didn't. | |
| (0, 7) 411 | So you had the Jamaican Labour Party and then just across the road you have the PNP, People National Party, they were just killing each other. |
| (0, 7) 412 | Killings and gangsterism were just a hangover from colonialism. |
| (Gwawr) So, they had a curfew on the whole country? | |
| (Gwawr) So, they had a curfew on the whole country? | |
| (0, 7) 414 | You couldn't go out in public unless you were a doctor or something. |
| (Gwawr) That sounds familiar. | |
| (Gwawr) That sounds familiar. | |
| (0, 7) 416 | Yes |
| (0, 7) 418 | I suppose, but more dangerous, we were just outside the city limits, I was with my cousins in Spanish town. |
| (0, 7) 419 | Yeah, but anyway, we go across and we go see some Rasta man just over the other side of the city limit, and we sit there and we eat and we smoke, not that I was smoking mind … |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, sure. | |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, sure. | |
| (0, 7) 422 | … and we're coming back and there's a massive lorry full of soldiers, I could hear it in my head for ages after, they had this tail gate on the lorry, dropped the tail gate, boom... boom... boom. |
| (0, 7) 423 | And they had us up against the bank, and this one soldier stuck his rifle in between my legs, I was only, like, 14, and he went, 'bang...bang, spread out', and I, I was helpless like this, and then he came right up to my ears just touching me, and, excuse my language, he said, 'boy, if I feel anything hard in your belt buckle I'm gonna kill you'. |
| (0, 7) 425 | That's what he said to me. |
| (0, 7) 426 | Lucky they let us go. |
| (Gwawr) That's not funny, why are you laughing? | |
| (Gwawr) This isn't funny. | |
| (0, 7) 429 | But this was normal, guns was everyday life. |
| (0, 7) 430 | Here in Wales we're lucky. |
| (Gwawr) I'm not sure about that. | |
| (Gwawr) I'm not sure about that. | |
| (0, 7) 432 | In comparison. |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, in comparison. | |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, in comparison. | |
| (0, 7) 434 | Must've been hard for you, growing up in Wales like you did, being a Welsh speaker. |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, it was. | |
| (Gwawr) Yeah, it was. | |
| (0, 7) 436 | I gave your Mam some books, I don 't know whether she/ |
| (Gwawr) /Yeah she did, thank you. | |
| (Gwawr) /Yeah she did, thank you. | |
| (0, 7) 439 | Did you like them? |
| (Gwawr) I did, yeah. | |
| (Gwawr) This is only a fragment of history. | |
| (0, 7) 444 | What is? |
| (Gwawr) This, now. | |
| (Gwawr) I hope people look back and laugh {Gwawr laughs} and think, those stupid… stupid people. | |
| (0, 7) 448 | So you did read it? |
| (Gwawr) How the hell could they think that one man was better than another? | |
| (0, 7) 451 | So, tell me, which University are you going to? |
| (Gwawr) I got into Cardiff Uni. | |
| (Gwawr) I got into Cardiff Uni. | |
| (0, 7) 453 | Cardiff University… waw. |
| (0, 7) 454 | Not that I'm surprised, you're very clever. |
| (0, 7) 455 | Well of course you are, us Andersons we're all very intelligent people. |
| (Gwawr) How do you know I'm clever ─ this is the first time you've seen me in 10 years. | |
| (Gwawr) How do you know I'm clever ─ this is the first time you've seen me in 10 years. | |
| (0, 7) 457 | You're analytical, you obviously absorb knowledge, interrogate thoughts. |
| (Gwawr) I wasn't looking for a compliment. | |
| (Gwawr) I wasn't looking for a compliment. | |
| (0, 7) 459 | You're an Anderson, when an Anderson sets their mind on something we go for it with everything we've got, I can see that in you. |
| (Gwawr) I'm not though. | |
| (Gwawr) I'm not though. | |
| (0, 7) 461 | What do you mean? |
| (Gwawr) Well. | |
| (Presenter) ... justice for George Floyd, the unarmed, handcuffed black man who pleaded with the police officer to let him breathe. | |
| (0, 7) 511 | I have missed out. |
| (Gwawr) Yeah you have. | |
| (Presenter) ...A dyna falch ydyn ni o ddallt seremoni olaf Eisteddfod Caerdydd fod yna gymaint o deilyngdod... | |
| (0, 7) 514 | I hear you, but I'm different. |
| (0, 7) 515 | Let's do this again, let me to prove to you/ |