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(2, 2) 890 The chapel.
(2, 2) 891 'Capel', we say in Welsh.
 
(2, 2) 896 It's what I thought you'd understand.
 
(2, 2) 900 Yes.
(2, 2) 901 Here in Wales, anyway.
(2, 2) 902 Quite a difference.
(2, 2) 903 Big difference, really – years ago.
 
(2, 2) 905 Well – it's difficult generalising, but we still tend to think of church – many of us – most of us – as... well, not so Welsh.
 
(2, 2) 907 As chapel.
(2, 2) 908 Chapels.
 
(2, 2) 910 Language is part of it – yes.
(2, 2) 911 But... It's more about the people, in a way.
(2, 2) 912 Y werin – the common people.
 
(2, 2) 915 Sort of.
 
(2, 2) 917 It is in that you wouldn't ever have seen Pryse Gogerddan here – the landowner.
(2, 2) 918 The squire.
(2, 2) 919 Hardly ever, anyway.
(2, 2) 920 Or his butler, or anyone like that.
 
(2, 2) 922 Oh yes.
 
(2, 2) 924 Just about, yes.
(2, 2) 925 Back then, anyway – beginning of the war.
 
(2, 2) 927 From the dates you've given me, yes.
 
(2, 2) 930 Enw'r capel - yes.
(2, 2) 931 It's what you wanted to see, isn't it.
(2, 2) 932 One of the places.
 
(2, 2) 934 Chapel.
(2, 2) 935 The chapel house.
 
(2, 2) 940 Oh, no-no.
(2, 2) 941 The priest – 'minister' we say – 'gweinidog' – he doesn't live – didn't live - in the chapel house.
(2, 2) 942 Chapel house is for the... well, caretaker, I suppose.
 
(2, 2) 945 Yes.
(2, 2) 946 Cleaning and polishing and things.
 
(2, 2) 948 A lot of work.
(2, 2) 949 And no shortage of bosses!
 
(2, 2) 951 Well, all the members.
(2, 2) 952 The congregation.
(2, 2) 953 It's their chapel, isn't it?
(2, 2) 954 Their building.
(2, 2) 955 Another difference with the church.
(2, 2) 956 Their money built it.
(2, 2) 957 Their money had to keep it going.
 
(2, 2) 961 Collective – that's the word.
 
(2, 2) 965 This church/chapel thing?
 
(2, 2) 967 The whole thing?
 
(2, 2) 973 Well – yes.
 
(2, 2) 975 Oh, yes – yes.
(2, 2) 976 It's now I'm talking about.
(2, 2) 977 But a hundred years ago, well...
(2, 2) 978 For one thing, this place would have been just about full on a Sunday.
 
(2, 2) 980 No.
(2, 2) 981 For the sermon.
 
(2, 2) 989 In a way.
 
(2, 2) 991 Actually, from what I can see, what was really going on was that whoever was up there {y pwlpud} was there to make you think.
(2, 2) 992 Question.
(2, 2) 993 Educating people.
 
(2, 2) 995 No-no-no.
(2, 2) 996 That's the church, again.
(2, 2) 997 The chapel – when it was really working – was making them think.
(2, 2) 998 Not telling them what to think.
(2, 2) 999 Teaching them to think.
 
(2, 2) 1002 I think it probably was – at its best.
(2, 2) 1003 And probably really exciting.
(2, 2) 1004 Radicalising.
 
(2, 2) 1007 Always has been.
 
(2, 2) 1010 How d'you mean?
 
(2, 2) 1013 Yes.
(2, 2) 1014 You'd have thought so, wouldn't you.
 
(2, 2) 1016 It's complicated.
 
(2, 2) 1042 Come.
(2, 2) 1043 I'll show you where your great-grandmother used to live.
 
(2, 2) 1045 Chapel House.
(2, 2) 1046 Yes.
(2, 2) 1047 We'll go this way.
 
(2, 10) 1446 Yes.
(2, 10) 1447 She can't come up though, unfortunately.
(2, 10) 1448 She fell last week – going into Spar.
(2, 10) 1449 Still feeling a bit shaky.
 
(2, 10) 1453 No-no.
(2, 10) 1454 Just shaky.
(2, 10) 1455 That's why she wasn't here last Sunday, I suppose.
(2, 10) 1456 I should have thought.
 
(2, 10) 1458 Oh, yes.
(2, 10) 1459 By all means.
(2, 10) 1460 Although...
 
(2, 10) 1463 No-no, it's not that.
(2, 10) 1464 It's... well...
(2, 10) 1465 She told me what she knows – what she remembers about Mrs. Jones, Tŷ Capel – Chapel House.
 
(2, 10) 1469 Look, how do you know...
(2, 10) 1470 Why do you say she's your great-grandmother – Mrs. Jones?
 
(2, 10) 1474 Yes.
(2, 10) 1475 I can see that... well, that it looks like that.
 
(2, 10) 1477 Have you looked at the records – your grandmother's birth certificates – things like that?
 
(2, 10) 1480 Mm.
(2, 10) 1481 Well, perhaps it would've been better if you'd done a bit of checking first – before coming all the way here.
 
(2, 10) 1484 No.
(2, 10) 1485 What I'm saying – what Mrs Williams told me on the phone was that Mrs. Jones Tŷ Capel – Chapel House - wasn't her mother.
 
(2, 10) 1487 Wasn't your great-grandmother.
 
(2, 10) 1489 Sorry, but yes.
(2, 10) 1490 She's quite certain.
(2, 10) 1491 She remembers Mati – your grandmother – well, remembers her coming to the chapel here when she was on holiday.
(2, 10) 1492 Always stayed at the Marine, she said.
 
(2, 10) 1494 The hotel – Aberystwyth.
(2, 10) 1495 She'd done well for herself, hadn't she?
 
(2, 10) 1500 Mrs. Jones Tŷ Capel didn't have a daughter.
(2, 10) 1501 Just a son.
 
(2, 10) 1503 With your grandmother's things, were there any letters from someone called Ifan – Evan-John?
 
(2, 10) 1508 Perhaps not.
(2, 10) 1509 Once she'd made the break.
(2, 10) 1510 Gone to Birmingham.
(2, 10) 1511 It was Birmingham she went to to start with, wasn't it?
 
(2, 10) 1515 Could have been – in a way – were it not for Lloyd George.
 
(2, 10) 1517 Lloyd George.
(2, 10) 1518 Lord Kitchener.
(2, 10) 1519 Pryce Gogerddan.
(2, 10) 1520 All those who drew them in and sent them off.
 
(2, 10) 1523 Sort of.
 
(2, 10) 1526 No.
(2, 10) 1527 She wasn't.
 
(2, 10) 1534 Of course.
(2, 10) 1535 Of course.
 
(2, 10) 1542 I don't know, sorry.
(2, 10) 1543 We'll have to ask Mrs. Williams.
(2, 10) 1544 She'll know – if anyone knows.